Here's How To WIN A Debate Against The "All Lives Matter" 'Movement' (This also applies to "Blue Lives Matter").

All Lives Matter”: The Issue with This Response to the #BLM ...


    This topic has cost me some friends. And I can live with that. Since the police brutality has been permanently pushed into the forefront of our politics, we have seen three (two really) groups pop up:


1. Black Lives Matter: The group who opposes police brutality, they have some hardliners (those who want to abolish the police), and more moderate types (who want to defund the police, and strictly regulate them), but they agree that the police in the United States (as well as the rest of the world) have been able to get away with the intentional homicides of black people, other minorities, and whites.


2. "All Lives" Matter: The group who pays lip service to opposing police brutality believes that saying "black lives matter" is "racist", and will say "all lives matter".


3. "Blue" Lives Matter: A group of bootlicking morons who think cops deserve special rights people who are concerned about the justified anger rhetoric against police in America.


    Let me admit something: I used to be on the wrong side of the debate, I had opposed the BLM movement, and I called them a "racist domestic terrorist group", but I never explicitly endorsed the "All Lives" or "Blue Lives" groups. I regret that, as it was easy to dismiss the BLM throughout 2015, 2016, and 2017. In 2018, and 2019, the BLM movement seemed to go away. Maybe I just didn't pay attention. After George Floyd was murdered, and seeing the video of Daniel Shaver's murder, what little faith I had in the police, was gone. And here's how I argue against the ALM and B(lue)LM 'movements'.


#1: No, Black Lives Matter isn't racist.


    Yeah, yeah, yeah. Keep citing a few people (who may or may not actually associate with BLM or identify as a part of it) who say that whites are to blame for our problems (which that is racist, but the claim has been proven false by the fact checkers), but I can cite to you numerous examples of where they have been only saying that Black Lives Matter, not "Only Black Lives Matter". Some people in BLM has said some racially insensitive things about whites, and many more do not. And keep in mind, that every group has it's "extremists", and other who have lines of attack that might go too far. But if you're going to there, then every political group can be smeared as extreme over arbitrary reasons.


#2: No, Black Lives Matter isn't "radical", or "extreme".


    I have heard this claim way more than I'd like to admit. People have argued that Black Lives Matter is "communist", "anti-American", and "far left", among other smears. Some members of the BLM movement may be "communists", but that doesn't mean that all of them are. Red-baiting has been used by those who want to keep the status quo, and those who can't argue in good faith. Here's the BLM website stating what they believe. 


    And if we are going to generalize, this will get out of hand. So I'd advise the anti-BLM "activists" to watch their tongues. There are some moderates, conservatives, liberals, Libertarians, etc, who support BLM, and are not communists. I am extremely anti-communist, and I have no shame in saying that Black Lives Matter, and that an interaction with the police should not result in death, or serious injury.




#3: The "'All Lives' Matter" Movement Does Not Care About All Lives.


    The "'All Lives' Matter" movement has proven that they do not care about life, regardless of their identity. When Daniel Shaver was executed by a cop -despite doing everything he was supposed to- not a single protest from the ALM group popped up. When videos and images of children in cages popped up, not one of them cared. Most said "they should have come here legally", as if that justifies indefinitely holding them in cages with squaller conditions that most health officials would use as a justification to condemn houses and public buildings. When Breonna Taylor was executed, not a single one of them cared. 


    When the President of the United States sent federal troops after protesters, and some were taken to undisclosed locations, and when police attacked protesters, a child, and pregnant woman (which caused her to miscarry), none of them spoke out. It's only when we say that Black Lives Matter, that the AlL lIvEs MaTtEr MoVeMeNt speaks up. It's fucking pathetic. I don't curse on here (that much), but give me a break, the ALM "movement" only stands against something, but does not stand for anything. The Black Lives Matter movement stands against police brutality, and for a better criminal justice system.


#4: Not a single blue life matters; since no blue people exist.

 
    Sorry Sonic, sorry Blue Man Group (who is wearing blueface), but your lives matter, but not because you're blue (and Sonic ain't real). Police officers lives matter because they are human, and their job status is immaterial to the conversation. The fact is that no police officer was ever enslaved for 400 years. No police officer was disowned by their own family for coming out as a cop. No one was ever aborted because the test revealed that they would be a cop. 


    No one was ever denied the right to vote because they were a cop. And keep in mind, if you kill a cop, you can face a possible death sentence, depending on where you live. Cops are more protected than the citizenry, and people think that cops have it rough. Yes, a police officer has a difficult job, considering they have been asked to handle situations that they have admitted that they are unqualified to handle. No cop has ever been considered 3/5 of a human, or asked to show their birth certificate if they run for office.


#5: ALM and B(lue)LM are one in the same.


    It's hilarious that when someone says "Black Lives Matter", ALM people will screech that "All Lives Matter", but when someone says "Blue Lives Matter", they don't say a word, since they obviously object to the word "black". They both make the same basic bitch talking points against B(lack)LM, and they lack any good faith arguments. There are some people who support ALM but not B(lue)LM, or vice versa, but I'm willing to bet (a retraction) that plenty of ALM and B(lue)LM people are supporting both groups.


#6: Yes, all cops are bastards. Or bad, if cursing isn't your thing.


    First things first: I don't care if you, or someone you know (relative or whatever) is a cop. You're a bastard, because you have pledged to enforce *all laws*, including unjust ones that initiate violence on peaceful people, and focus more on victimless crimes (like sex work and drug possession) over murder, rape, etc. Cops who see something but do not say anything, are also bastards. Cops who use excessive force are bastards, every single one. Cops who say "I was afraid for my life" are the biggest cowards on the planet when they have a gun, tazer, baton, knife, and pepperspray, to defend themselves.


    I have written a more detailed piece on abolishing (or defunding) the police, click here.


#7: If the ALM movement cares about stopping police brutality, why are they so bent on opposing police reform?


    In my experience (I know, anecdotal, but I've seen this common trend with pundits, and even the President of the United States), many people who pay lip service about how George Floyd's death was tragic oppose police reform, and still say that police were wrong for killing George Floyd. Whenever a proposed reform is brought up (like banning no knock warrants, neck restraints, tear gas, rubber bullets, a cop concealing a badge number or face, wearing body cams, filing reports over even drawing their weapon, cutting police budgets, curbing what they will respond to so you can prioritize violent crime, not victimless ones, etc), opponents will not even ask about how this will be implemented, but will say "no", no matter how much one could water this down (you shouldn't water any of it down, since these are perfectly reasonable), they will say "no" just for the sake of saying no. The details and logistics do not matter to them. You will be accused of "cop hating" and being a "puppet for the far left", by stupid people ALM and B(lue)LM groups.


#8: How many?


    Some of the stupidest people out there people will say... well I'll quote it:


    "According to the FBI stats from 2017, there are more than 28k non-traffic-related arrests in the US every day. Easily triple that number of traffic stops by conservative estimates.
So what constitutes police brutality? A legal definition of excessive force being used, or the court of public opinion?" -Some twit guy I argued with, who says "All Lives Matter" all the time.


    My question is: How many people have to get murdered by police officers before you start to care? How many people have to get seriously injured, or harassed by police before you start to care? Until it meets your abritrary threshold, I guess those lives clearly don't matter to you. Also, stop citing crime stats from 2017, they don't reflect the current times, and I have also refuted plenty of 2017 crime stats (that my opponents DID NOT EVEN READ).


    My rebuttal to that quote:


    "Police brutality or police violence is legally defined as a civil rights violation where officers exercise undue or excessive force against a civilian. This includes, but is not limited to, physical or verbal harassment, physical or mental injury, property damage, and death."



#10: If you care about "all lives", and you really are upset by police brutality, what are you going to propose to combat it?


    So far, B(lue)LM and ALM stand for nothing of significance, and only are opposed to things. They have no proposals to fix our broken system, and more often than not, they defend the status quo. Until they stand for something, they should be dismissed, ignored, and not taken seriously, since their seat at the table is seat that should be reserved for people with principles, not mindless opposition. If these groups were opposed in the principle of the details, that would be fine, but when conservative groups flat out reject reform but say "law and order" is what we need, engaging with them is a waste of time.


#11: Why does people saying "ACAB" offend you more than police brutalizing people?


    So far, I've noticed that some ALM and B(lue)LM groups are more offended by "defund the police", or "ACAB", than they are when a police officer abuses their power. It's.. almost if they are shils for the police... or something.


#12: BLM cares about more than just police brutality.

    Poverty, healthcare issues, among other things, is what BLM fights to correct. I may not see 100% eye to eye with them, but they are an imperfect vehicle to crash into the status quo.


#13: You can't blame BLM for the actions of a few, unless we can do the same to the police.


    Many anti-BLM people will cite two clips: one with people chanting "Pigs in a blanket! Fry 'em like bacon!", and the other is "What do we want?! Dead cops! What do we want them?! Now!"


    I could cite clips of an B(lue)LM rally where they chanted "kill transgenders", and use that to smear
the "Back The Blue" people. I could cite some ALM people (like the President of the United States) who allowed 150K people to die from COVID-19 when they did nothing to try and contain the virus, thus "all lives" did not matter to them. I could also cite how so many ALM people show their apathy toward human suffering and pretend that we all suffer equally when we don't. Chao.


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